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« on: January 14, 2010, 11:51:23 PM »

During our last event, Jan 1, we had some problems. In game it would be easy to handle but there was apparently an out of game problem as well.

During the conflict between players in game, the Barbarians and the Order of the Amasi players, there was some misunderstandings and conflicted stories about an out of game problem. Something about the way a charm spell was taken or dealt with, as well as items that were taken that could 'not' be removed from one of the Amasi.

What we are asking is that anyone and everyone who has any information about exactly what happened, or at least anyone who can provide us with their side of the story to please either post it here or e-mail us at neroelkins@gmail.com

We would like to figure out what to do about the problems and to clarify what happened to make sure it doesn't happen again, but the specifics on the various sides of the event are not clear.

Thank you for your time,
Eric Rollins
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 11:09:53 PM »

Hello there,
This is Dennis White, I played the big white shaman barbarian Lief Wraithfire (waves).
This is the story as it unfolded for me.
James Stokes (Mel the Barbarian = charmed victim) was fighting alongside some guys in yellow nad blue tabbards I still dont know who they were to this day. When the mob went down james was casted on by one of there squad, he looked up after looting the mob and taken back a bit asked the kid in game why he casted on him. In response the kid replied you dont know what I casted, james then came over to my character in game and said these guys just cast on me WTF, I asked james what they casted in game,  and one of the loud brothers (the cell caster) came over and told our group that they tried to charm him (ig he would know the incant he is capable of knowing the spell cast). We determined ig the reason they had tried to charm james's character and was for the coin that was on the mob. Our characters reacted as any barbarian would in a town of no "formal" society and demanded blood for the insult to our people and then the one noble npc tried to get involved we roleplayed everything after that moment (which I understand is the issue in question how he came to know what was cast on him, which was witnessed by another caster capable person. another issue came up where the kid in camo hunting overalls tried to touchcast james and then immediately advised james he doesnt know what he cast on him (which we immediately told the kid that if you touch cast on someone they dont have to know what the spell was, to deny it. Permission and.or acceptance is needed to touchcast on someone.

(fast forward a bit)

The next issue comes up where the fight breaks out in the tavern, things unfolded iin the fight as everyone saw no issues there. I myself pickup the kid in camo overalls and asked him to empty his own pouch I make it a effort to not search anyone else's things if there is not a marshall present to be a neutral party, I asked him if he had a earth book and he handed me the tag I shattered it with witnesses, I also adv him due to the belt full of potions he had I was destroying physically pouring out all the potions he had and any other items he had at the time. all u/s although I still wonder if those tags were ever ripped up, I remember going to bed and still seeing the potion physreps with tags still in them on the kid.

Matt (owner) adv me that he had taken care of the issue, and matt is the man so I left it alone. When I came back in asking if there were any alchemy books found on the other kid that ad the alchemy globes to destroy his book (yea i know a little much) that's when I got word of that other kid with the 2 weapons sword was missing. I heard it was also lco/spirit linked. I then immediately started looking around for it, I even took off all my gear pouches to let matt inspect them, because to be honet if that had happened to me (tag being stolen for a spirit linked item) I would have flipped out. in and oog.

So in essence this is ow the night unfolded for this encounter for me. I heard the one kid that was taking off his gear(had the sword) was accusing james of metagaming, I assure you no one metagamed this issue with the charm spell. It all played out this way ig. I also took the time to explain this to the same kid (i dont mean to offend you guys are obviously younger than me i'm a old man lol).

I hope this sheds some light on the subject.
I look forward to seeing some of you guys at the april event for cincinati, should be fun,

Cheers
Dennis White
ps. any further questions shoot me a email at
Wraithfire81@hotmail.com
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 11:39:16 PM »

I personally did not see what took place. I tried to weed out what had happened in order to make sure a air punishment was given to those who deserved it.

What made it hard to decipher the situation was whether anger was in game or out of game. It also did not help the situation involving so many people and having several conflicting stories.

I just hope next time such a thing can be handled better.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 03:02:53 AM »

Thanks Dennis, your explanation so far has been the most informative. It's cleared up a lot.

XD Though what do you mean no formal society?! The Gypsy in me takes offense! XD lol.

Anyone else with any detailed explanations? It'd be helpful to cross reference stories.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 03:13:30 PM »

Hey Eric,

As I have already emailed you my side of what was observed/what unfolded but I also wanted to clear up a few things:

First off with the potions - All of those where disposed of, the lady working in the kitchen gave my a bag so those could all be bagged up for tags to be ripped up later, (Which did happen and I even have the rip tags to date)

Then as far as being angry, Honestly we are not and wasn't until the OOG: Item went missing which included AJ (Zane, 2 swords) Key Tag set, and Character sheet, and the IG Spritit linked sword (Which was not an LCO Item)

Even now there are no hard feeling or anyone angry, just a lot of confusion and Different "stories" on what happened especially from and IG and OOG statements?
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 01:59:29 AM »

 It's very confusing. To some degree we are unsure what we are even attempting to do. In game, a solution has come to mind. Though out of game, we just want a better idea what happened and hopefully some guidance towards exactly what went wrong.

As far as I see it, someone probably didn't know the rules. Then probably messed up and didn't say anything.  Thanks for your input. Hopefully this will all be cleared up very soon.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 08:36:37 AM »

hey matt, and whomever else messaged me i/g I apoligize I meant to message you sooner about this, if you would please use my oog notes and just translate them to an ig perspective I would appreciate it for leifs version of what happened. I dont know if there is still any investigation with this I have been very busy with work and with all this snow have not been able to check forums and emails like i would have like to.
Thanks again I look forward to seeing you guys at the june event I am planning on attending.

Dennis White
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